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power measurement

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salam
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Feb 6th, 2010 at 6:39am  
Can we relate  dB and dBm anyway?

We measure the TX power by dB  and  try to measure the receive power on the other end by an instrument having  only dBm indications.

How can we relate ? please help
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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 7:23am  
To measure BUC power output:

e.g. BUC Power = 2 watts.
You make the measurement using a high loss crossed waveguide coupler and a power meter.
cross-waveguide-coupler-dummy-load
You read the loss value off the table on the side of the coupler (e.g -40.2 dB ).  There are slightly different values according to frequency. The coupler on the left above is a nominal 40 dB loss coupler. Note it has an N type coax connector where you connect the power meter sensor.

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Image shows an ebay sale of HP power meter and sensor.

Read the calibration factor using the table that comes printed on the sensor head for 50 MHz and calibrate using the 1 mW 50 MHz reference before use.

Connect the power meter sensor head to the N type socket on the waveguide, having checked by calculation that you will not burn out the sensor head.

Set the calibration factor on the meter using the table that is printed on the sensor head for the actual freq, say 14.2 GHz.

The meter may be set to display W, mW, uW or nW or dBm or dB(rel).  Set dBm

BUC Power = meter reading + coupler loss.

Note that the power reading is the total RMS power, so if you are transmitting multiple carriers it is the addition of all of them.

All the above gives highly accurate results.

Warning 1: Power meters have expensive and sensitive sensor heads.  Be careful not to burn them out.  Make sure you know the maximum input rating and have a suitable high loss coupler or attenuator in front.  

Warning 2: Always terminate the BUC output waveguide, either into the antenna feed system or an appropriately sized  dummy load.  Microwave power heats , and may burn, the human body.  Never look down a waveguide as the power, and even quite low  power, will cook your eye lens, which has no cooling blood supply.

Conversion:

Watts to dBW: 10 log (watts) dBW
Watts to dBm: 10 log (watts) + 30 dBm

dBW to dBm:  dBW + 30 dBm
dBm to dBW:  dBm - 30 dBW

dBW to watts: divide by 10, =, 10^x watts
dBm to milliwatts:  divide by 10, =, 10^x milliwatts

Try to learn some or all of these:

+20 dBW = 100 watts
+10 dBW = 10 watts
+6 dBW = 4 watts
+3 dBW = 2 watts
0 dBW = 1 watt
-3 dBW = 0.5 watt
-10 dBW = 0.1 watt

0 dBW = +30 dBm

Best regards, Eric.
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salam
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2010 at 7:19pm  
Thanks eric   for your kind help
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