Unlimited ?

One of my rules for this website is that the word 'unlimited' is not permitted, without qualification, to describe a shared service.  Companies using the word 'unlimited' are liable to be banned and references to their web sites deleted.  

"Free-for-all and not limited by a fair access policy or fair useage policy" would is a better description of many services. Also, the bit rates offered should clearly be described as "Up to", so as not to mislead potential customers.

To qualify for 'unlimited' you need to provide to same constant bit rate all of the time, 24/7, like SCPC.


The cheapest shared services, without FAP/FUP, may be severely limited by congestion caused by the other simultaneous users (e.g. 750 user sites, all sharing 15 Mbit/s).

Shared services, on minimum tariff, may only be able to provide an average of about 15 - 20 kbit/s per month average per site. This sounds very slow but, when a FAP/FUP is applied, in practice most customers will find this acceptable provided they are not greedy.  Peak speeds of 2 Mbit/s or more are possible and provided overall useage is moderate then no dissatisfaction occurs. Avoid uploading or downloading video, audio, large files etc. Paying more for a higher rated subscription or buying extra Mbytes, is the solution for those needing larger upload/download amounts.

Read more https://www.wildblue.com/legal/network-management-policy which refers to the Wildblue system in the US/Canada. This is a fairly clear explanation of how the ViaSat Surfbeam traffic management operates (similar to Tooway)  

Best regards, Eric.

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Don't be fooled !!!!

Sat2way offers Tooway service, this service is provided by Eutelsat/Skylogic in Italy and it uses a FAP system (unless you pay xxxx,xx per month).

All Tooway resellers in europe are providing the same service from Skylogic.

But I think "FAP" and "UNLIMITED" is a bit misunderstood.

For end-users "unlimited" means, they can up and download as much as possible without a FAP, (in other words - the service is uninterrupted - ie: you won't be cut off - but you pay for anything above your subscription) for technicians it means something different (see note from Eric).

As long as you buy extra bandwidth besides your monthly subscription, yes you can call this a "form of unlimited", at least from end-user point of view.

*The word 'unlimited' indicates that the quantity (MBytes or GBytes) of your traffic (uploads and downloads) is not artificially limited by a tariff based, pre-determined traffic allowance per unit time period.  Sometimes also referred to as a 'FAP free service'. A truly unlimited service provides the customer with the specified uplink and downlink bit rates, available for continuous transmissions, uninterrupted 24/7 useage.

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Go to this page and read more:
https://www.sat2way.fr/internet-satellite/conditions-generales/

My impression is that they offer the standard KASAT Tooway quota tariffs with 1 hr, 4 hr, 7 day and 28 day sliding time window traffic limits.

Plus a special offer for the first 5000 sites, where you have a FAP free service, valid till 28th Feb 2014.

I don't find their use of the word "illimité" acceptable, without the qualification that the service is shared and may be limited by congestion caused by others using the same satellite capacity.

Best regards, Eric.

More info re unlimited

12/27/2011
Sat2Way set up a special safeguard "Net-gluttons" its unlimited offers
since December 15, 2011, Sat2Way has made ​​significant changes to its general terms and conditions concerning the use that is made its offers unlimited Internet access via satellite. Indeed, the new general conditions of Sat2Way dated 15/12/2011 concerning subscriptions and M + XL + and bring a change to Article 5.3 which introduces a concept of "Quality of Service (QoS) "and sets up rules to protect the provider of certain uses that it deems abusive, illegal or disturb the service. So Sat2Way considers that traffic volume accumulated over a consecutive period of more than 3 GB of 24 hours (or download a constant 33 KB / s) or 30 GB for 1 month for a subscription to the offer + M is an abuse of the use of the service. To supply XL +, the limit is 5 GB 50 GB or 24 hours a month. Beyond this use, the use of satellite Internet access to the subscriber may be considered excessive and likely to disrupt the service. The user will then be punished by a drastic reduction of its speed to 64 Kbps downstream and 16 Mb / s upload, and this, for 30 consecutive days. However, this penalty can be waived if the customer provides evidence that it is not abused and used his connection to make illegal downloads.

Although Sat2Way told not to apply these new rules, they are nevertheless a warning to large consumers who exaggerate in their use of unlimited call the ISP. A safeguard to protect the service and quality meet the high consumers (also called " Net-greedy * ") and not to punish brutally small slips or restrict uses. The ISP satellite Lembeye we reports that it is working on new offers in order to preserve the notion of unlimited while developing the conditions for such use unbridled. See you in January 2012 for more information ... * Definition of Net-guzzler .

Full text ( french ) here from Nordnet 

https://www.internetparsatellite.net/index.php/t/2

Thanks for the clarification of the 10 and 10 + offers