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Idirect 3100 rlock and hughes buc

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Aug 17^th, 2009 at 8:08pm

Dear friends i have a problem with my idirect 3100 i am in africa and i bought a burned modem for 200 usd the problem on the modem was that the lan port ic was burned so got a ic with the same voltage from onther old mother board soldred it on and now the lan port works but now when i telnet the router rlock its locked its on version 7.1.1 and i have a hughes buc which i will giv info about i wana use with the idirect 3100
can you people help me in unblocking the modem and tell me will my buc with this modem

lnb and buc info

P/N: 1025901-2107
REV: C
S/N: 113508

P/N: 1024572-0001
S/N: 15713
NJR2184HH
REV A

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 8:48pm

Well done repairing the burned chip on the modem.

Regarding rlock, this means that it has been locked to a certain network by the service provider to prevent you moving elsewhere during the contract time. It might be helpful to find out where the modem came from and then contact the relevent service provider. Give details of the serial number. Only the original service provider or iDirect know how to fix the problem.

Regarding the BUC, if this is a Hughes part it may well be unsuitable for use with iDirect, I am not sure. You need a standard, general purpose BUC, similar to this Ku band BUC specification.

The LNB NJR2184HH is standard unit with a 10 GHz local oscillator, suitable for use in a network with a downlink carrier in the frequency range 10.95 - 11.7 GHz.

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 9:18pm

its a big white buc massive then the new buc's now days i will post pictures tomorrow well it was bought of a black markert the modem so its hard to find out who the service provider was isn't it possible if i upgrade to 8.1.1 i can remove the rlock and also if i get option file from my isp that is supplying me the bandwith and upload it on the modem cause i can login as admin and user can i use the modem then?

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 9:51pm

Regarding the BUC note the folllowing:

1025901-1009 RF-KU-TIG-E-1W-LGF
1025901-2009 RF-KU-TIG-E-1W-LG2F
1025901-1007 RF-KU-TIG-I-1W-LGF
1025901-2007 RF-KU-TIG-I-1W-L2F
1025901-2107 RF-KU-TIG-I-1W-L2F

The document below provides more information about many different Hughes BUC and thier compatibility issues, also pictures of each BUC and Hughes modem:
https://62.128.191.210/hughes_dev/files/downloads/RFU%20&%20PES%20Indentificatio
n%20Guide%20v1.2b.pdf

Unfortunately this document, while it gives the full compatibility matrix for Hughes equipment, it does not explain how each BUC works technically (DC supply volts, Freq reference, upconverter setting, telemetry etc).

We need help from someone with Hughes experience to say if your 1025901-2107 BUC is suitable for iDirect.

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 9:57pm

its the buc on page 7-8 in the document also sir u didn t answer my question can't i flash the modem or sumtin to open it up cause its a pain idirect gonne deny the guy who locked have no idiea who he is

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 10:16pm

Is that the small flat type BUC ?

Anyone know how it or the PES5000 works on transmit ?

DC power, freq reference, up converter, linear or AGC saturated etc...

Some, perhaps all, Hughes BUCs have a 170-190 MHz input on transmit and have a synthesised upconverter local oscillator whose frequency is controlled by data messages send from the indoor PES to the outdoor Hughes BUC, via the cable. Such a BUC is quite unsuitable for use with an iDirect modem.

There are many more Hughes documents here to study:
https://62.128.191.210/hughes_dev/files/downloads/
Hopefully we can find the answer somewhere ...

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 10:23pm

yh it is its the white one which is flat has 4 to 5 coaxil connectors

Aug 17^th, 2009 at 10:54pm

I'm still very doubtful about your old BUC being compatible with iDirect.

The very latest HughesNet modems HX-150 are compatible with normal BUCs. See https://www.eeenterprisesinc.com/pdf/HX150_H35527_A4_LR_091306.pdf
HX-150 Modem
TX output 950-1700 MHz
10 MHz reference available
24 volts at 3.2 amps (for 5W BUC)

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 18^th, 2009 at 8:31am

lets see what happens let me try getting the modem unlocked first anyone with suggestion on how to flash upgrade etc to get rid of the rlock please comment thanks n1ghtwalk3r

Aug 18^th, 2009 at 6:40pm

is there any type of recovery method like redboot caan sum1 explain how redboot can be used to unblock a rlock and what power cycle means and are the commands typed in hyper terminal or ?

Aug 18^th, 2009 at 7:16pm

Try emailing iDirect and tell them the modem model number and serial number and they may be able to identify the service provider they sold it to. You could then try to set up a service with that provider and make the unit operational, or ask that the service provider to set up service briefly - a few minutes - to unlock the modem over their satellite. Maybe they might authorise iDirect to unlock the modem in which case you would need to send it back to iDirect. Somehow either the service provider or iDirect need to connect to your modem.

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 18^th, 2009 at 7:44pm

i did do that today they said they can't identify the modem. they say it was listed faulty in their records should have been cause i fixed the fault and they say cause i can't prove i am the owner they can't help unlock it any other was to wipe of the os and re-install and technical ways whats redboot

Aug 18^th, 2009 at 10:06pm

sorry to truble u guys but how do i construct a power cycle nd can i load red boot in tcp/ip and if succeed with the # after red boot does that mean i can change the root password? if i am going the wrong way can sum1 teach me how to redboot prbly ready to tke the risk as now the modem is juz a waste

Aug 19^th, 2009 at 11:49am

I would deal directly with iDirect. That or buy another modem entirely.

Aug 19^th, 2009 at 5:11pm

lol thts what i will do guys do u know i can login as admin or user on isite and even able to upload a new option file can i do anything with those power's

Aug 19^th, 2009 at 7:03pm

You can look around on the falcon process. That is about it.

Aug 19^th, 2009 at 9:53pm

does it really work and where do i luk awnd

Aug 20^th, 2009 at 12:48am

If you are able to telnet to the iDirect, you are telneted into the falcon process.

Aug 21^st, 2009 at 8:52pm

Ok first of all i can telnet in cmd and login as user only i can login as user&admin on the isite software i can also log on hyper terminal with host name which i use my ip address i can t login through the serial port it want connect when i try calling the console port i have the cable that has a rj45 connector going to the serial port on the modem and a serial connection at the other end going to the computer also in hyper terimnal when i logon through my ip address i can only login as user if i can get on telnet which u say is flacon what can i do can you specify what u mean by flacon and what i can do ?

onther thing in this topic we have been talking about a hughes buc number 8 in this pdf link:https://62.128.191.210/hughes_dev/files/downloads/RFU%20&%20PES%20Indentifi
cation%20Guide%20v1.2b.pdf
can this buc only work on the nss7 satalite or even the w3a can you please tell me if this buc can work on the nss7 with a idirect modem 3100 which supports both ku band and c-band my buc is a ku-band the hughes.

ok tht's explained i just bought a new idirect mode 3100 and a new buc for idirect aswell when i put the idirect on and put the rj45 cable on the lan it don t show up on the isite software nither does the console port work how do i configure it sum1 help i also paid my six month subscription to mweb on the w3a satalite so how do i set it up ?

thats about it for todai

thanks guys

Aug 24^th, 2009 at 12:01pm

dear fwnds whats wrong is it that u don t understand what i have said ?

Aug 24^th, 2009 at 1:43pm

Contact mweb and ask them for full installation instructions. They may have preconfigured the iDirect modem and are therefore best placed to explain how to configure and connect your PC to the modem.

They should send you the relevent iDirect installation manual and provide you with dish, mount, feed system and BUC and an LNB with the correct local oscillator frequency for your downlink carrier frequency.

You need to know what satellite and what downlink polarisation name. Did they send you an options file required to tune your modem to the correct downlink carrier frequency, symbol rate etc.

Use this page to work out the Azimuth, Elevation and polarisation adjustment angles for your dish in southern Africa.

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 24^th, 2009 at 8:46pm

ok they have given me the w3a satalite to lock on to i have aligned my dish to the w3a satalite with the new buc for idirect itself and a new idirect 3100 modem also have uploaded my option file but when i go to test if i am locked on there network i only get the red line and no lock on to there network after upload of the option file i noticed that there was no offset its 0 on my settings could that be the problem i am unable to log on the network

Aug 25^th, 2009 at 12:34am

You say you have aligned your dish to W3A. You don't say how you have done this. How do you know it is W3A if you have not yet got your modem to lock to the wanted carrier?.

I suggest you check your polarisation name and the polarisation adjustment angle applied. If Horizontal name then start with the LNB at the top. If Vertical start with the LNB at the side (either side, it does not matter). Then apply the adjustment angle, face towards the satellite in the sky, clockwise is positive.

Then try pointing again till you find the correct satellite.

If, by "offset" your are referring to the line:
reflector_offset_angle = 0.000000
in the options file, this is of no consequence since the modem does not drive the antenna positioner.

The hub and remote latitude and longitude are important however as the modem needs to work out the range to the satellite, when the time comes to transmit.

If your dish has an elevation scale, use it to set the beam elevation angle. If you don't find the satellite on the first swing try up and down in 1 deg steps.

If the dish does not have an elevation scale set the front face of the dish vertical. The beam elevation angle will now be the offset angle of the dish (read the dish installation manual). To obtain the operational beam elevation angle tilt the dish further, either forwards or backwards to decrease or increase the beam elevation angle by the required amount. You may wish to make an accurate inclinometer. This inclinometer may also be used to set the polarisation adjustment angle; place sideways across the BUC, LNB or waveguide part.

Best regards, Eric.

Aug 27^th, 2009 at 1:18am

If you have the admin password sure. Otherwise, plug in the serial and break it at boot. There's actually a "recover lost idirect modem" documentation on https://tac.idirect.net. But you will need to login, and if you don't have a login (you are a customer) they aren't going to help. They do this out of respect for providers who don't want to give a customer a remote, to only have them switch out providers. It's actually an options file setting, not in the OS.

Just call them and buy a 5IF chassis, they'll help you out Wink

//warren