Ka or Ku band for Tooway service ?

A few questions here....how do I find out if I am on Ka or Ku band ? and anyone any ideas when the new satellite will be launched?  If I'm on Ku band now will I automaticaly be transferred to Ka band and will my current equipment work?

I'm on Ka.  The dish is a nice snug 61cm/24" diameter.  I believe the Ku is 1m diameter?  But your service provider will be able to tell you.

Eric or Eu-sat will no doubt leap in and correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the kit is dual-band.  Mine isn't, anyway.  So if you get Ka, that's where you stay.  I'm happy with it as far as performance goes, but would like the Ku data allocation.

John

Also I am just a bit confused as on the tooway website it says its Ka band off Hotbird 6 13 east and Ku band of 33 east. My dish is pointed at 13 east, sorry if I am asking stupid questions but I am new to satellite broadband thanks for your help again.

You would need to buy a new dish & LNB/PA, and probably the modem too.  At least you could keep the cables! Wait for Eric or Eu-sat again.

John

Nobody knows till it is launched, so you have to wait. You can find more info on the net, just Google.

ye i agree tortilla I've googled everything not much info out there at all. This was my last resort to find out some more info. There is nothing on skylogic website either. suppose we all just have to wait and see.  I don't understand why my installer gave me Ku equipment if Ka will be better that means I will have to buy new equipment

First and foremost Tooway are in the business of selling bandwidth and broadband speed to the customer. What infrastructure or technologies they use is of little interest to the end user unless you are technical and want to satisfy some curiosities or you work in the business. What network infrastructure does my mobile phone company use, I don't really care about. All I want to know is what service they can provide for me and at what cost.

So if my neighbour is paying 40 euros to Tooway and getting 2GB of data usage and I am paying 40 euros to Tooway and getting 1.2GB it is only fair that I feel this is unjust. Rationalising that discrepancy by discussing the differences between technologies Ka and Ku is akin to talking about the backend of an ISP's network infrastructure. It is not in my eyes a valid way of justifying the obvious inconsistent service levels that equal paying Tooway customers are availing from. Hopefully Tooway are listening!

Dear Mr. Lucey,

I don't think Eutelsat will listen to people who call them "Criminals". Stop moaning about this subject on this board, send an email direct to Eutelsat HQ in Paris or to Tooway/Skylogic Turin. I believe we have advise you this also months ago!

I have seen a post from you 2 weeks ago offering your installation service/skils to other companies. Reading your comments (incl. those deleted by Eric) I don't think it will be a great success !  

This board is for technical help and support, not a place to ventilate personal frustrations.

Again, contact Eutelsat HQ in Paris or to Tooway, they are the only one who can answer your question and maybe help you.

Or buy a new Ku system today but dont start this campaign next year again when Eutelsat launch the new Ka-Sat because the story will be the same ........ you have an old Ku system and there is a new Ka system on the market with much better performance, more bandwidth for same price or even .... less etc. etc. etc.

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You can be sure system will be tested long before it will be available on the market, we tested Tooway Ka together with Skylogic long before it was launched.

"The Tooway service was launched in 2008 but it will be further consolidated after the brand new and innovative KA-SAT will be deployed to 9 East*; its launch is scheduled in the period November 2010 to January 2011. The objective of the KA-SAT programme is to deliver efficient resources for mass-market delivery of Tooway to users across Europe and the Mediterranean Basin located beyond range of ADSL networks. With a throughput of over 70 Gigabits per second, KA-SAT will be capable of serving over one million users who expect bandwidth and prices comparable to ADSL2 performance. It will consequently make an important contribution to public objectives for digital inclusion."

*Beside other system specifications (not published/known yet) it is already clear existing Ka users pointed to Hotbird6 13 East has to repoint the dish to the new KA-SAT 9 East if they want to use this new service from Eutelsat/Skylogic.


A bit more info about Skylogic, click here


Above a picture of a Hughes HX vsat hub.

Latets problems (except a transponder (hardware) problem) on the Ku band where not a result of a fast release of a product but a result of a unforseen very fast grow of the network. Ku satellite systems are already on the market for years, it is not a new technology and used components are all standard Ku low band components, the modem is a router based on Docsis protocol. For more info about Docsis click here

For more info (we have post this info earlyer on this board) about the new Ka-Sat Satellite and bandwidthclick here

Press release on Space News about Eutelsat Tooway Ka-Sat, click here (WildBlue is the USA version of Tooway).

A Tooway Ka-Sat promotion video, click here

You can receive already TV on Tooway Ka and Ku. System needs a bit of modification, thats all. This can be done with standard parts available in every TV/Electronics  (www.maplin.com) shop and a little bit technical knowledge. We dont promote/publish/provide info about this because we like to concentrate on the data part of the system and we dont want to get involved in TV signals and/or modificated systems etc.